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Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novels

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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby JakeMagnus » Thu Nov 03, 2016 4:51 pm

I did get to book nine, so at least I tried. I guess if it was a continuing story I'd finish it, but there's not much left from what the first few books were about so I don't care quitting now. I do still feel that book three is one of the best novels I have ever read, and two and four come close. So I guess that's something.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Morgoth » Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:09 am

Good thing you never tried Esslemont. I bailed on Return of the Crimson Guard, after enduring Night of Knives.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby JakeMagnus » Fri Nov 04, 2016 10:26 am

So glad I listened to you guys!
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Morgoth » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:42 pm

About to finish with House of Chains. It took me a while, almost the whole year. Since it's a heavy book and I wasn't able to carry it with me, and such...And also because sometimes the plot came screeching to a halt for me.
I feel like Erikson got pretty self-indulgent this time. Not as bad as Gurm, but still. Karsa's plot was mostly good, but I honestly would've been ok without all the filler, like placing a trap for the dogs, breaking the alpha male and so on, only to have all the damn dogs killed afterwards. Same with this whole Nom business, in which Karsa kept getting trapped until the next deus ex came along. Blah blah blah. I feel like a hundred pages could've been easily lopped off.
As for the rest, I've mostly liked Tavore/Gamet/Fiddler. Pearl and Lostara Yil feels like filler, as they're mostly retreading Felisin's path from Deadhouse Gates. Heboric is fine, both Felisins can go eff themselves (you just had to give me yet another Felisin, didn't you Erikson, since I loved the first one so much). Onrack and the other Sengar dude don't feel relevant to the rest of the plot, but I guess I could be wrong? I mean, other than the killing of L'oric's familiar. Then Karsa in Raraku, again, I like the character but his journey is too travelogue-like for my taste. Blah blah blah. Only that instead of actual teblors he talks to their ghosts, which is hardly different.
Crokus/Cutter remains as obnoxious as ever. Sorry/Apsalar remains as uninteresting as ever. Kalam/Pust, amusing but too many pages describing Pust's hijinks, hiding from his wife, the monkeys etc.

So yeah, not a bad book but it's bloated. For me. Would a re-read improve it in any way? Not sure, too early to think about re-reads.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby JakeMagnus » Thu Dec 08, 2016 4:53 pm

I didn't even get that they were monkeys until book 8. I always pictured them as big bat-like creatures for some reason.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Dolan » Fri Apr 07, 2017 12:34 am

Just bought the Brazilian translation of Gardens of the Moon, published recently, can't wait to start reading it.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Dolan » Tue Apr 18, 2017 2:07 pm

I'm still struggling through ICE's Dancer's Lament and it's... rough. Reads like a parade of fantasy clichés with bad comic relief in between.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Karsa » Tue Apr 18, 2017 3:17 pm

Dolan wrote:I'm still struggling through ICE's Dancer's Lament and it's... rough. Reads like a parade of fantasy clichés with bad comic relief in between.


You are still insisting with Esslemont.
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Re: Erikson & Esslemont - Malazan Book of the Fallen & Novel

Postby Dolan » Wed Apr 19, 2017 1:26 am

The PT-BR translation of Gardens of the Moon (awesome cover btw) just arrived and I'm tempted to check it out and quit ICE for a while.
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